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November 08, 2005

"Pants on Fire: How Al Franken Lies, Smears And Deceives" Part 2

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As previously discussed, the book "Pants on Fire: How Al Franken Lies, Smears And Deceives" enumerates just some of Stuart's various deceptive statements. And, in that post I said:

order it through Amazon now before Soros-funded groups start trying to get it pulled

Well, here comes the enemy! Namely, the George Soros-funded Media Matters for America discussing an appearance by author Alan Skorski on The Situation with Tucker Carlson. They try to say Skorski was wrong about BLS statistics.

But, as it turns out they're the ones who are wrong. Of course, it's awful hard to find MMFA being right about something, so don't get too excited.

Posted in StuartSmalley at November 8, 2005 07:57 PM


Wow, you guys are morons. Did you not see that the Comments section ripped him apart?

"LIMBAUGH: There aren't families living on the minimum wage anyway; it's a teenage entry level job for 75% of the people earning minimum wage."

So Limbaugh says teenagers make up 75% of minimum wage earners. BLS says : ".and about one-fourth were age 16-19. Among teenagers, about 9 percent earned $5.15 or less"

09 25

Rush is wrong, dumbshits. Either way you slice it, it's not 75%. It's not even a "majority," as Skorski 'paraphrased'.

And why don't you meantion the Newsday article? Please tell me why. I really want to know. Is it because Skorski is completely in denial about that article. Or is it because the article proces Skorski is full of shit. HAHAHAHA. Please, tell me why he didn't mention the article. I really, really want to know.

Posted by: Alex at November 9, 2005 11:56 AM

My above post was messed it. Where it says "09 25" was supposed to be "9 [less than symbol] 75" and on the next line "25 [less than symbol] 75."

"Or is it because the article proces Skorski is full of shit."


Posted by: Alex at November 9, 2005 12:05 PM

I'm waiting for a reply. Aren't you guys going to defend Skorski?

One other thing. He says he paraphrased 75% as "majority." The problem is that paraphrase generally mean to say that same thing using different text. He did use different text but he didn't say that same thing. 75% means 75% while majority means 51% or more, not necessarily 75%. Not the same thing.

Posted by: Alex at November 9, 2005 03:52 PM

Well, we would respond, but we have no idea what you're talking about. Is English your second language?

Posted by: Scott at November 9, 2005 09:35 PM

Actually, it is. But you can perfectly understand what I'm saying.

Posted by: Alex at November 9, 2005 10:21 PM

Well? C'mon guys, I'm waiting for a response. Are you gonna let this loony lefty get the best of you? El Rushbo wont be happy about that.

Posted by: Alex at November 11, 2005 07:13 PM

For those of you who haven't read Skorski's book on the BLS data, here it is. He is responding to Franekn's charges that "Rush pulls numbers from his butt." According to Franken, the BLS says that 60.1% of people over the age of 20 earn minimum wage. Skorski os right, Franken lied.

There is no "people over 20" nor is there 60.1% of anything.

Posted by: J.Payre at November 12, 2005 03:11 PM

When did Franken say anything about 60.1%?

Posted by: Alex at November 12, 2005 05:20 PM

Nevermind. I found a few articles that mentioned Franken said 60.1%. I also found where he got his info: The Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Franken didn't say "60.1% of people over the age of 20 earn minimum wage." He said 60.1% of minimum wage earners are over 20. (If you people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two, that's not my problem.) Either Skorski or J.Payre are reversing it. The 60.1% number comes from the 2003 data (which I'm guessing was the most recent available at the time Franken gave the statistic) under "At $5.15" (since Limbaugh said "earning minimum wage").

Let me give you a rundown:
Total workers earning $5.15/hour in 2003: 545,000
Age 16-19: 212,000
Age 20+ : 333,000

333,000 divided by 545,000 is 61.1%
The 1% difference from what Franken said is most likely because of rounding off decimals.

Now do you get it? Rush was wrong. Franken was right. Done.

Posted by: Alex at November 12, 2005 06:10 PM

Alex, it's so sad to see people like yourselves get your underwear twisted trying to defend smear merchant Al Franken.

Franken has said over and over and over....that 60.1% of minimum wage earners in America are over 20, (according to the BLS)

The BLS says no such thing.

There are 3 age brackets in their study:
16-24, and
25 and over.

According to the BLS, 1.7% of hourly paid workers (over the age of 25) are minimum wage earners.


Posted by: J.Payre at December 3, 2005 04:17 PM

"According to the BLS, 1.7% of hourly paid workers (over the age of 25) are minimum wage earners."

and the stupidity never ever stops does it? Once again that is NOT what Franken said. Franken said "60.1 percent of MINIMUM-WAGE EARNERS 20 or older.". He did NOT say "60.1 % of those OVER 20 earn the MINIMUM-WAGE". The 1.7% refers to the % of people over 20 whose salary is the min wage or less. The 1.7% does >=NOT

But I will grant you this. According to the 2004 date franken was wrong. According to the stats the % is actually EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT FRANKEN SAID.
Here look at the stats


the % of min wage earners 20-24 is 26.1 and the % of min wage earners 25 or older is 49% making the % of win wage earners over 20 actually 75.1% which means that about 25.9% of min wage earners are less than 20 years of age (teenagers in other words)

let me just state once again. Damn you right-wingers are dumb and Skorski just spouted that crap on CSPAN and the mindless right-wingers recycle it all. unbelievable.

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